Lee Elder
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What was your ''the last straw that broke the camels back'' moment
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthere is a limit to how much straw (long yellow grass) a camel can carry on its back.
if you keep putting more straw on top, it will finally break the camel's back.
when you are at the last straw you are finally angry and will not take any more.. my moment (to stop attending all watchtower meetings) was after the harsh treatment from the elders and fellow congregation members of my second cousin who was disfellowhipped as a teenager.
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Lee Elder
I think the chang on the "generation that won't pass away" in 1995 was a wake up call for me. From there I started to carefully research the blood policy and by late 1996 I knew it was wrong. No response on the matter from Dan Sydlik in January 1997, so I started "New Light on Blood" in February of that year (would late become AJWRB). I am sure it became apparent to the local body that I was not towing the line, and would not put up with any bullshit from anyone anymore. That led to me increasingly being labeled a "liberal", and a lot of confrontation with conservatives on the body. The last straw came when the body assigned two elders to ask me a series of questions - apparently as some sort of test. One of the questions was, "when was the last time you agreed to disfellowship a young person". That was it for me - I was done. Pulled my family out of that hall and never went back. Tough decision to make, but definitely the right choice for me. -
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Which Spiritual belief system or non belief system is right for you?
by Giordano inwe have done this before but we have a fair number of newbie's on this site and some are struggling with the question about other belief systems and non belief.
where are you now in your own mind?
here's a quiz http://www.selectsmart.com/nontheism/ that is pretty accurate, at least in my case as to where i am at this point in my life.
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Lee Elder
I am a blend of Deist, Humanist, Liberal Progressive Christian. -
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My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks
by umbertoecho inthrough this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.
initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.
all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.
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Lee Elder
Governments should require the implementation of a "Child Protection Policy" by all tax exempt organizations. The plan should meet minimum required standards as set by the government and be readily available for inspection by all. -
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We cannot abstain from blood. Our bodies need it and they keep producing it. If bodies fail, a transfusion would be acceptable.
by quincemyles ingod prohibited the eating of blood.
in genesis, leviticus and deuteronomy the edict is clear: "do not eat blood !
" when the apostles said "abstain from blood," jewish christians must have contextually understood that to mean "do not eat blood.
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Lee Elder
We have very good articles available at AJWRB regarding these issues. Check them out if you are not familiar with them:
http://ajwrb.org/bible
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The Horror of mom needing blood and almost dying...you dont want this!!!
by Witness 007 inmy mom was unwell for awhile bruises on her body....doc tells us she has a form of lukiemia.
of course "no blood" she is anointed and stubborn as hell.
her platelets (blood fraction 2% of blood volume) are 4 should be 150!!!
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Lee Elder
Print these out. Read them to you mom if she will listen:
http://ajwrb.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/abstain1.pdf
http://jme.bmj.com/content/26/5/375.full
http://ajwrb.org/watchtower/the-h-l-c-perspective
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What makes people kill others over religion? The same thing that makes JW's let children die over blood doctrine.
by Wasanelder Once inmy inactive relative, (female) asked in exasperation, "what makes people kill others over religion?
" i responded, "the same thing that makes jw's let children die over the blood doctrine.
religious ignorance and fervor causing the death of others without any compunction?
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Lee Elder
In all of these situations there is a claim of authority. Once you accept that claim, they have you and they know it. To disagree with them is to disagree with God. -
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Document Blood Transfusion Deaths - please help
by Lee Elder inthe vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.
if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.
send as many details as you can recall.
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Lee Elder
Thanks for sharing. It certainly seems that Leukemia and childbirth claim the majority of JW lives. -
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Document Blood Transfusion Deaths - please help
by Lee Elder inthe vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.
if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.
send as many details as you can recall.
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Document Blood Transfusion Deaths - please help
by Lee Elder inthe vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.
if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.
send as many details as you can recall.
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Lee Elder
Simon. The link keeps disappearing. Can you fix this?
Here it is:
http://ajwrb.org/watchtower-blood-map
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Document Blood Transfusion Deaths - please help
by Lee Elder inthe vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.
if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.
send as many details as you can recall.
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Lee Elder
The link to the Watchtower Blood Map is not showing up on my post.
Please click on this link and report your experience with the form on the bottom of the page. Please provide as much of the information requested in the first post as possible.
Thank you.